Lupus lymph node - a biopsy fire-drill
A little over a week ago, I recounted the details of my most recent doctor's appointment. To my relief, he put me on CellCept, changed up my prednisone, and altered my plaquenil. It was a busy appointment with a lot of changes...but all moves in the right direction. There was another aspect of the appointment that I haven't blogged about yet, and that was a lymph node biopsy that I was undergoing a few days later.
As many of you know, swollen lymph nodes can be a common symptom of lupus. In fact, when I'm in a flare, my lymph nodes almost always swell. Sometimes, that's one of the first signs that I'm getting sick. I'm never overly concerned when they do swell, but I do take note, and always bring it to the attention of my rheumatologist. And that's just what I did last September, at the start of this flare. The lymph nodes under both armpits were swollen, and my rheumatologist concluded that indeed it was something systemic because it was under both arms, so I wasn't to worry, given my current state of active disease. (Please consult your doctor for your own personal diagnosis.)
The fall came and went, and so did my swollen nodes. But around New Year's, I noticed that one and only one node in one armpit returned swollen. I didn't think much of it, but planned on telling my rheumatologist when I saw him again in about 2 1/2 months. But the node kept getting larger, and I had no other swollen nodes anywhere, which is kind of odd for me. After about 5 weeks of watching this swollen node grow, and still 6-8 weeks away from my scheduled rheumy appointment, I made a next day appointment with my primary care physician. She concluded that that, indeed, the node was probably lupus-induced, but she thought I should have an ultrasound just in case. I agreed.
I went for the ultrasound, and as the sonographer took her first shot of my armpit, she immediately said, "Wow! Have you been sick or something?" I guess she saw multiple enlarged nodes, and they took her by surprise. (In my book, the multiple swellings were mostly good news, because that meant my one troublesome guy wasn't some weird aberration, but the results were still sent off for evaluation.) I heard from my PCP a week later, who asked me to schedule an appointment with a general surgeon to have my results evaluated.
I did that, and in the meantime, several other swollen nodes popped up - littered around the back of my neck and ears. (Again, good news to me, this being one of the first and only times that I wanted signs of more lupus symptom activity to surface!) Once at the surgeon's office, he did a physical exam, and confirmed that there were even more swollen nodes under my other armpit. While he was fairly confident that all of the nodes were enlarged due to lupus, he still wanted a biopsy to make sure. He said given my use of heavy immunosuppression like Cellcept in the past (his words, not mine), and because I was about to start another round of Methotrexate or the like (turned out to be CellCept, as you know), he thought it was a good idea to be sure there wasn't anything abnormal at play. I pushed him a bit, asking if a case could be made to by-pass the biopsy, but he said in this situation, it was best to move forward. (My rheumatologist agreed, although he, too, was fairly certain we were fine.)
So - I went for a biopsy. It was my first biopsy ever, which made it a bit daunting, but still, I was 90% sure we were still just dealing with lupus. As you can imagine, though, my family and I wanted to be 100% sure. We waited a week after the biopsy before returning to the surgeon. And thankfully, he confirmed that, indeed, there was no sign of tumor, cancer, or lymphoma at all. Hooray! After I gave a big sigh of relief, he wanted me to be sure to monitor my swellings. If my flare subsides, and the nodes are still swollen, he might want to see me. And if additional nodes continue to swell, he may want to see me.
But it's good news in the Gorman household for now!
As always, please consult your own physician before concluding how your own swollen nodes might pertain to your lupus disease activity. And if they ARE swollen, and you haven't told your doctor, make sure you bring it to his attention!
As many of you know, swollen lymph nodes can be a common symptom of lupus. In fact, when I'm in a flare, my lymph nodes almost always swell. Sometimes, that's one of the first signs that I'm getting sick. I'm never overly concerned when they do swell, but I do take note, and always bring it to the attention of my rheumatologist. And that's just what I did last September, at the start of this flare. The lymph nodes under both armpits were swollen, and my rheumatologist concluded that indeed it was something systemic because it was under both arms, so I wasn't to worry, given my current state of active disease. (Please consult your doctor for your own personal diagnosis.)
The fall came and went, and so did my swollen nodes. But around New Year's, I noticed that one and only one node in one armpit returned swollen. I didn't think much of it, but planned on telling my rheumatologist when I saw him again in about 2 1/2 months. But the node kept getting larger, and I had no other swollen nodes anywhere, which is kind of odd for me. After about 5 weeks of watching this swollen node grow, and still 6-8 weeks away from my scheduled rheumy appointment, I made a next day appointment with my primary care physician. She concluded that that, indeed, the node was probably lupus-induced, but she thought I should have an ultrasound just in case. I agreed.
I went for the ultrasound, and as the sonographer took her first shot of my armpit, she immediately said, "Wow! Have you been sick or something?" I guess she saw multiple enlarged nodes, and they took her by surprise. (In my book, the multiple swellings were mostly good news, because that meant my one troublesome guy wasn't some weird aberration, but the results were still sent off for evaluation.) I heard from my PCP a week later, who asked me to schedule an appointment with a general surgeon to have my results evaluated.
I did that, and in the meantime, several other swollen nodes popped up - littered around the back of my neck and ears. (Again, good news to me, this being one of the first and only times that I wanted signs of more lupus symptom activity to surface!) Once at the surgeon's office, he did a physical exam, and confirmed that there were even more swollen nodes under my other armpit. While he was fairly confident that all of the nodes were enlarged due to lupus, he still wanted a biopsy to make sure. He said given my use of heavy immunosuppression like Cellcept in the past (his words, not mine), and because I was about to start another round of Methotrexate or the like (turned out to be CellCept, as you know), he thought it was a good idea to be sure there wasn't anything abnormal at play. I pushed him a bit, asking if a case could be made to by-pass the biopsy, but he said in this situation, it was best to move forward. (My rheumatologist agreed, although he, too, was fairly certain we were fine.)
So - I went for a biopsy. It was my first biopsy ever, which made it a bit daunting, but still, I was 90% sure we were still just dealing with lupus. As you can imagine, though, my family and I wanted to be 100% sure. We waited a week after the biopsy before returning to the surgeon. And thankfully, he confirmed that, indeed, there was no sign of tumor, cancer, or lymphoma at all. Hooray! After I gave a big sigh of relief, he wanted me to be sure to monitor my swellings. If my flare subsides, and the nodes are still swollen, he might want to see me. And if additional nodes continue to swell, he may want to see me.
But it's good news in the Gorman household for now!
As always, please consult your own physician before concluding how your own swollen nodes might pertain to your lupus disease activity. And if they ARE swollen, and you haven't told your doctor, make sure you bring it to his attention!
Comments
So happy for you! Can't imagine the level of stress! And, the experts tell us to avoid stress - but sometimes it catches us.
Haven't been in touch for a long time - good to touch base with you - especially to be thankful with you.
Cassie
~ Nancy
I wish you well -take care! Sara
I suffer most from severe joint pain and was practically debilitated before seeing a rheumatologist.
He also diagnosed me with Sjogren's and Hashimoto's thyroid disease. Of course this was all new
to me but it was a relief to get answers. Although hydroxychloroquine helps 90%, I still suffer from
pain or illness on a regular basis.
A few week ago I started feeling breast tenderness and pain. Not thinking anything of it, I let it go. Now almost
a month later pain persists and spread to the lympnode under both arms. Now I contacted my rheumatologist
asking them if these kind of symptoms were connected to my desease's. They recommended me to see my PCP.
I saw my primary and they recommend lab work but also gave me a breast examination and confirmed the pea like
bumps under both armpits. I was put on antibiotics and awaiting results from a Mammo as I instantly freaked out
thinking of breast cancer. I'm happy to see that other people with Lupus have had the same issues with this illness.
at a different level the past 2 years. My lymph nodes swelled
And I got really sick with fever, fatigue, and had a tooth extracted
And the infection seemed to go into the jaw bone and made lymph nodes worse. (July 26)
I am very intuitive because of energy healing and had pain
In my side at spleen. I kept going which is what I have always done meaning
Just push through. I was at my sisters and was taking something downstairs
And next thing I knew I missed bottom three steps and was hanging by left armpit
In a squat position. (Oct 22) Was walking slow and had no idea how that happened! I have had Lumbar stenosis surgery Nov. 2007 and. Cervical fusion at C5,6,7 April 2008 and had pushed through that for over 10 years giving up things.
So knowing I am no longer going to bounce back at 53 like I did at even 33 I waited until
Dec 30th to get it checked and X-ray shows nothing which is normal. Then we started a nerve conduction and PT.
I did not want surgery again but massage, acupuncture, and Pat was not helping. Three epidural
With the third being unsuccesssful as he he did it from angle in neck and unfortunately hit lymph
Node. That was a big flag. So, we went on vacation to see our kids and I still had horrible
Fatigue but constant pain will do that. I knew by then with definitive CT scan we had enlarged lymph
Nodes and chipped bone with herniated disc. I came back from our trip with horrible
Gut issues and could not keep anything in my stomach. No vomiting just the other end.
I had an FNA biopsy scheduled for Lymph mode and just took extra pants with me (the call you do not want to get especially on vacation) and referral to Oncologist with full It was suspicious for lymphoma. Next step was to have ENT remove it and It got sent to Mayo
And was BENIGN .. Praise God! I had a cyst in jaw 11 years prior with runners and same scenario but benign. I never believed I had
Lymphoma. It took three weeks to get an answer which was hard because no matter what hearing it from the doctor
Is a huge relief. Once cleared we moved on to the cervical fusion repair five weeks after lymph nodes removal.
Went great for both. Then ten weeks post surgery an infection came out at both ends of incision so two rounds of antibiotics.
Still did PT and pain in left arm. Another lymph node under left arm popped up and did mammogram
And cleared and now gone. But still fighting fatigue and pacing myself.
Also ended up with stress test for chest pain and beware
Function great so just inflammation in heart and lungs.
I am sure the anemia has something to do with fatigue. Fought that my entire
Life as I almost died at 3 months from it. It was a battle
Entire life. This journey has been interesting and took many years to
Diagnose but five years ago I I really dug into the Natural side and all Specialists are
Supportive and blown away with results. I always try to look at the positive
And one day at a time! There is hope and a good blend between natural and medical
If you are fortunate enough to surround yourself with a good team. So dealing with Anemia, Hypothyroidism, Asthma,
And now Lupus but thankful to get up every day and help others.
I stumbled upon your blog this morning and felt compelled to comment. Don't like any of the other blogs at all! Thanks for your input.
Kelley
If you click on the first HRSA Health Centers, you can type in your zip code, and find out if there is a center close to you. I hope that helps - and best of luck. I hope you can get in to see someone soon!
Kelley.
Just got a call that my rheumatologist wants me to officially see a hematologist for my swollen lymph nodes. Diagnosed with lupus and sjogrens in 2016. How painful is a lymph node biopsy? I have this feeling that they will want me to do that. Been having swollen lymph nodes near my armpits for some time now. They come and go. Definitely hate the waiting game too but comforted that other people have issues with their lymph nodes.
Thanks,
Becky